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sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 05:08
Just a silly quick question,

Does someone know if its possible to get some sort of "Protective Glass / Plastic Cover" for the LCD Screen on Canon EOS DSLR's.

I have the new 400D (Rebel XTI) and I can certainly see it getting easily scratched.

I have seen them on the Nikons but cant see to see any place surrounding the
LCD (2.5inch) that one could be cliiped onto.

Juan Zas
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 05:28
There are someones for PDA screens on sell for sure, so, with a little bricolage you can adapte it if you are too much worry about.

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 05:49
sorry,

how u mean?

are u saying u can get them ?

or only for hand p.cs?

CobaltSS
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 06:23
I would just recommend buying any type of PDA screen protectors and cut it to fit the XTi's screen. Just make sure it is wide enough to begin with.

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 06:24
hmmm,

what a shame they are not made especially for the canon dslr's

im guessing the PDA must be cheap plastic thin paper in order to be able to just cut it.

damn.

Tyreman
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 06:42
http://www.hoodmanusa.com/
a hood of sorts

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 06:47
looks good mate

but i cant see a specific one for canons

:(

Tyreman
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 06:50
Canon here?
http://www.hoodmanusa.com/flip_up.asp#canon

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 06:57
sorry

u right

but it seems they dont make / yet

the 400d XTI

hard cover case

damn!


Canon here?
http://www.hoodmanusa.com/flip_up.asp#canon

ron chappel
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:01
One thing you should know is that the screen allready has a plastic cover -just looking at the camera it seems the screen is exposed but but the part that sits flush with the camera back is a sheet of protective plastic -the real screen is safely inside

There are some types of screen protectors you can buy on ebay.The most common are the silly transparent contact 'stickers'.
The other oens are more substantial -they are not transparent covers like the nikon types but a fold down cover that also give shading for the screen - a serious bonus when looking at the screen in daylight!
Here is what the XT version looks like-
http://cgi.ebay.com/DELKIN-LCD-SCREEN-POP-UP-SHADE-FOR-CANON-REBEL-XT-350D_W0QQitemZ300029097288QQihZ020QQcategoryZ10790 9QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Unfortunately they aren't available for the XTi yet

Tyreman
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:03
They will engineer/market one shortly likely.

Tyreman
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:04
Although I don't use one on my 5D.

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:09
hey

that pealing thing u were saying that is already on camera


.

i just bought it, it had no coating on the screen

it seem to be pure glass

is this right?

One thing you should know is that the screen allready has a plastic cover -just looking at the camera it seems the screen is exposed but but the part that sits flush with the camera back is a sheet of protective plastic -the real screen is safely inside

There are some types of screen protectors you can buy on ebay.The most common are the silly transparent contact 'stickers'.
The other oens are more substantial -they are not transparent covers like the nikon types but a fold down cover that also give shading for the screen - a serious bonus when looking at the screen in daylight!
Here is what the XT version looks like-
http://cgi.ebay.com/DELKIN-LCD-SCREEN-POP-UP-SHADE-FOR-CANON-REBEL-XT-350D_W0QQitemZ300029097288QQihZ020QQcategoryZ10790 9QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Unfortunately they aren't available for the XTi yet

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:14
hey,

one last thing

u know how u said

"the silly transparent contact 'stickers'."

when i bougfht the camera, should have i expected the same thing, like a peel off sticker coating on top?

just like when u buy a new cellualr (mobile) etc

u get the protective coating

.

in my case, there was no sticker coated on top, just the crystal clear lcd hard coating.







One thing you should know is that the screen allready has a plastic cover -just looking at the camera it seems the screen is exposed but but the part that sits flush with the camera back is a sheet of protective plastic -the real screen is safely inside

There are some types of screen protectors you can buy on ebay.The most common are the silly transparent contact 'stickers'.
The other oens are more substantial -they are not transparent covers like the nikon types but a fold down cover that also give shading for the screen - a serious bonus when looking at the screen in daylight!
Here is what the XT version looks like-
http://cgi.ebay.com/DELKIN-LCD-SCREEN-POP-UP-SHADE-FOR-CANON-REBEL-XT-350D_W0QQitemZ300029097288QQihZ020QQcategoryZ10790 9QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Unfortunately they aren't available for the XTi yet

Nick_C
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:20
I used PDA protector screens, I have an Ipaq 5550 & had a bunch of protector screens, I cut it to fit my 350D & its perfect, I know some say it is made of a tough plastic which wont scratch but I bet it would & im REAL fussy about that kind of thing, a slight mark & it really bugs me, now I dont have to worry.

Nick :-)

sydneyguy30
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:30
sweet

im gonna get what u have too now

.

it wont be as hard and good as a proper cover (like the 350 has made)

but a slim protective sticker should help for sure

I used PDA protector screens, I have an Ipaq 5550 & had a bunch of protector screens, I cut it to fit my 350D & its perfect, I know some say it is made of a tough plastic which wont scratch but I bet it would & im REAL fussy about that kind of thing, a slight mark & it really bugs me, now I dont have to worry.

Nick :-)

SkipD
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 07:47
Don't worry about adding anything to the LCD screen protector. It just is not necessary. I do not baby my 20D, and it has NOT A SCRATCH on it.

Even if you got really unlucky, you can buy a replacement for the plastic protector that is on the camera now, and replacing it is fairly simple. A suction cup can be used to extract the original.

metoyou
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 08:04
Protective screens....make your own.
Get a thin, clear piece of acetate sheet about 1mm thick.
Cut it to the exact size you want to cover the lcd screen
Carefully clean the edges
Place the smallest piece of BluTack (pinhead size) at each of
the four corners to hold the protector to your camera.
Now carefully line up the protector with the camera lcd and apply.

It holds very well and can be easily removed. The protective 'peel off' covers are fine, but imho they offer little protection to a heavy scratch.

I've made the screen protectors as described above for my 1dsmk2 and my 5d. Never had any problems.

Martin

MFitz_NH
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 08:13
I put a Hoodman Hoodskin on my 400D. Model # HSK-4 is 3.125" x 2.25". Just cut it to fit.

Fitz

ron chappel
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 14:53
No ,DSLR's don't seem to come with those peel off protectors from the factory.
Thinking about it perhaps they did a few years ago but now they find it's not needed.The surface is quite hard and scratch resistant.
I have managed to get a few fine scratches on my 300D screen cover after three years use .It didn't make it hard to look through at all but i decided to replace it anyway as i'm just about to sell it and wanted it to look as perfect as possible.
The genuine canon part was about us$20 (incl postage) .I took the back off my camera to replace it but most other use the suction cup method mentioned by Skip above
Here's an example-
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=10852446

Jon
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 15:57
As Ron and Skip said - the screen on your 400D isn't a screen, it's a rigid sheet of very hard and scratch-resistant plastic, costing less than $20 to replace, and adhering to the camera via some double-sided tape. I haven't scratched my screens in over 4 years of rattling around. I figure anything able to scratch the Canon-supplied plastic would go through a "screen protector" like a knife through butter and scratch Canon's plastic too.

Statement
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 16:30
sorry

u right

but it seems they dont make / yet

the 400d XTI

hard cover case

damn!


Sorry, I just have to ask. Why do you break up your sentences into a few words and then skip a line?

Nick_C
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 18:58
Im sure they are pretty scratch resistant but I have seen some which have loads of tiny scratches, like hairline stuff, no major ones but its enough to make it look tatty, they might be less than $20 or whatever but a screen protector is even cheaper, I have a pack of 50 which I use on my Ipaq 5550 & when it gets a little grubby I just replace it, they fit perfectly on the 350D with a little cutting.

Nick :-)

dpastern
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 22:51
Sorry, I just have to ask. Why do you break up your sentences into a few words and then skip a line?

Probably cause he's not used to posting on forums and no one has ever told him to keep it unbroken. Not a biggie, makes it easier to read ;)

Paul - those Delkin LCD protectors are at this page:

http://www.delkin.com/products/popupshades/pro/index.html

none for the 400D yet, but it won't be long I imagine. I honestly don't think you really need one, and they'll interfere with the quality of the image that you can see on the LCD screen. I personally wouldn't bother...

Dave

edit: Did you see any scratches on my 1D's LCD screen? It's shot nearly 70k shots and is still fine. Some of that was usage by a semi pro photographer...your LCD screen should be fine.

Bamamike
24th of September 2006 (Sun), 23:11
I bought screen protectors for my 20D and my Fuji F30 (2.5"" screen) from "the invisible shield" - good stuff with lifetime warranty and removable without any remains. They cost about $10 and are easy to install.

BryanP
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 03:09
if you're worried about scratching the lcd cover, then just get a lcd clear film to cover it

its definitely still cheaper than replacing an accidently scratched lcd cover, and when you peel it off, everything below it will be good as new (unless you pierced through it of course, but its actually pretty hard to do that)

not only that, they're cheap. my camera place had a pack of 15 for less than 8 bucks and it works real well (and not only that, the sheets were large so you can actually make 2 cutouts for a 2.5" lcd out of one sheet)

just cut it and forget about any scratches

Finalcut
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 03:35
I just use the PDA film. It's cheap and easy... Works great.

sydneyguy30
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 06:56
hahah

good question

i dont do this at work

but i do seem to do it ast home when talking casually

dont know why

seems to be clear and easy to read

not sure

Sorry, I just have to ask. Why do you break up your sentences into a few words and then skip a line?

sydneyguy30
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 07:02
ha

thanks sweet mate dave

.

so may cats are suggesting there is no need for one,

but i simply want one, so i am going to get the peel off plastic protector like some people have mentioned.

it's seay and helps the camera look at its best, which is just a personal preference thing i guess

Probably cause he's not used to posting on forums and no one has ever told him to keep it unbroken. Not a biggie, makes it easier to read ;)

Paul - those Delkin LCD protectors are at this page:

http://www.delkin.com/products/popupshades/pro/index.html

none for the 400D yet, but it won't be long I imagine. I honestly don't think you really need one, and they'll interfere with the quality of the image that you can see on the LCD screen. I personally wouldn't bother...

Dave

edit: Did you see any scratches on my 1D's LCD screen? It's shot nearly 70k shots and is still fine. Some of that was usage by a semi pro photographer...your LCD screen should be fine.

sydneyguy30
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 07:07
if its only $20 odd bucks, i'll get a new one every 6 mnths for sure



ha

thanks sweet mate dave

.

so may cats are suggesting there is no need for one,

but i simply want one, so i am going to get the peel off plastic protector like some people have mentioned.

it's seay and helps the camera look at its best, which is just a personal preference thing i guess

sWampy
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 09:43
I had an extra one of these http://www.decalgirl.com/browse.cfm/4,4013.htm cut it and put it on, works perfectly. I wasn't really worried about scratching it, just couldn't see the screen in bright sun light, the hori anti glare coating, makes the screen more readable in bright light conditions.

sWampy
25th of September 2006 (Mon), 09:46
if its only $20 odd bucks, i'll get a new one every 6 mnths for sure
It looks like the screens are glued on like the screens on gameboys/gameboy advances. Sure replacing them is easy, just use the removal tool that comes with the new screen, and put a new one on, but be really careful with dust, it's almost impossible to replace one without getting some dust between the screen and the lcd.

sydneyguy30
26th of September 2006 (Tue), 07:56
sorry

i mean, i'd pay canon to do it



It looks like the screens are glued on like the screens on gameboys/gameboy advances. Sure replacing them is easy, just use the removal tool that comes with the new screen, and put a new one on, but be really careful with dust, it's almost impossible to replace one without getting some dust between the screen and the lcd.

Dumale
26th of September 2006 (Tue), 11:23
http://www.hoodmanusa.com/
a hood of sorts


now this isn't a bad package - you get a dozen skins for $10 bucks

I purchased the HSK-PROSLR for my 30D but it doesn't cover the cover entirely... about 3mm is unprotected at the bottom of the screen.

It's nice because it has a "small tang" to assist in pulling the plastic apart.

When I exhaust this pack in about a year or two... either they'll have a kit that fits correctly or Ill just purchase the HSK-4 and trim off the excess.

my two pixels...
-D

sWampy
26th of September 2006 (Tue), 11:36
It looks like someone should make one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/DELKIN-LCD-SCREEN-POP-UP-SHADE-FOR-CANON-REBEL-XT-350D_W0QQitemZ300029845104QQihZ020QQcategoryZ10790 9QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/22001023/Images/3/POP-UP_FOR_CANON_REBEL_XT_NEW.jpg out of a soft enough rubber that it would colaspe when you put it to your eye/in camera bag, but would pop open when you had the camera out to block the sun on bright days/block the light when in dark settings.

blam
26th of September 2006 (Tue), 11:52
they should make one with an anti reflective lear srcreen instead of a fold up flap

Just Be
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:47
Canon here?
http://www.hoodmanusa.com/flip_up.asp#canon

Careful. My hood broke after one week of use on vacation. The damn thing is plastic. One of the tips on the hood that enables you to slide it over and remove it broke. I don't recommend them at all.

SuzyView
26th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:49
I took the plastic cover I use on my PDA off about two months ago. It's because I couldn't see the screen clearly enough.

ed.
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 05:38
EXiM now make a screen protector for the 400D/XTi.
If it's anything like the screen protector I have on my mobile phone, then it's not noticable at all.

Just Be
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 10:03
EXiM now make a screen protector for the 400D/XTi.
If it's anything like the screen protector I have on my mobile phone, then it's not noticable at all.

Who sells it?

ed.
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 21:25
Who sells it?
ebay

dailykimchi
27th of October 2006 (Fri), 23:07
I was doing some thinking...my Nintendo DS Lite has a "Hori" clear screen protector...and it's super clear. These things are very cheap on eBay and it seems it would fit the XTi screen. I find most of the protectors for PPCs are too grainy...so you won't be able to see a clear image on your LCD.

SkipD
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 06:20
I've used PDA's for years with no "protectors" on them and have never seen any scratches on them.

Some folks manage to get theirs scratched up. I've shown them how they can simply use a plastic polish and remove light scratches, and I'm sure this would work on the LCD covers on Canon DSLR's as well.

There are several polishing compounds available specifically for plastics, but what I have used recently for this sort of thing is a polish made for automotive clearcoat finishes. Wal-Mart carries one brand - a product called Body Repair Finish Restorer by 3M, in a dark gray bottle - that works quite well. I also have some of another product called Scratch Out, by Kit. I don't know where that is sold, as I get it at the SC Johnson factory employee's store when I do contracted work there.

Both products are a thick liquid. Put a little of the polishing compound on a clean soft cloth and rub the compound into the plastic surface with small circular motion, moving around the plastic area constantly. By that, I mean that you don't want to just rub in the same little circle all the time. When you "use up" the little bit of polishing compound (it isn't liquid any more), let it totally dry and then use a clean soft cloth to wipe it off completely. Then inspect the area and repeat the process if you need to.

This procedure has worked great on the plastic faces of wristwatches, plastic lenses of sunglasses, and many other things around the home as well as other folk's PDA's.

Nick_C
28th of October 2006 (Sat), 18:57
Or just stick a PDA screen protector on the camera LCD & save all that hassle, they might be better now but I found polishing compound leaves a haze, very very subtle but never as crystal as new plastics..

Nick :-)